Showing posts with label warren kinsella. Show all posts
Showing posts with label warren kinsella. Show all posts

Thursday, May 27, 2010

Liberal talking points...

Ah that Warren.. the king of spin...  apparently, the Liberals aren't talking coalition.
Here are Warren's talking points... note what I said about Harper's 2004 letter where there was NO mention of forming a coalition gov't, unlike the Liberals did with Dion four years later.

Talking Points:
Conservative coalition fear-mongering


ISSUE

• The Harper Conservatives are trying to change the channel from their skyrocketing G8/G20 summit costs by resurrecting a bogus coalition boogie-man.

KEY MESSAGES

• Liberals will campaign to form a Liberal government. We aren’t interested in coalitions.

This accusation is rich coming from Stephen Harper, who signed a letter with Jack Layton and Gilles Duceppe in 2004 offering to form a Conservative-Bloc-NDP coalition government.

• As former Prime Minister Jean Chrétien confirmed yesterday, there are no coalition talks, no mandate for negotiation, and no negotiating taking place.

• Something the Harper Conservatives just don’t understand is that parties in Parliament can work together – without forming a coalition.

• The Conservatives have even attacked David McGuinty for suggesting that parties in Parliament “should be working together to put the interests of the Canadian people first.”

• The Conservatives think that parties in Parliament should not work together, and would rather put Conservative Party interests before the interests of Canadians.

On the first point -- if you're not interested in coalitions then why did your leader say, "A coalition if necessary, but not necessarily a coalition"?

On the second point (highlighted) -- again, Harper's letter NEVER offered to form a government, only that the Governor General consider her options and consult with the opposition parties.

On the fourth point -- if the Conservatives haven't been working with other parties, then in this minority situation, why do the Liberals continue to vote with the government or let legislation pass?

On the fifth and sixth points -- a Liberal putting the interests of Canadians before his/her party?  That's a good one.  Liberals are only interested in gaining power and will say anything to get there.  It's their M.O. and reason for existence.

Monday, May 17, 2010

The Coalition is dead. Long live the Coalition!

In the aftermath of the recent UK election resulting in a new Conservative-Liberal Democrat coalition government, Liberals and NDP in Canada have been saying, "See!  Coalitions DO work.  They don't even do minority governments there."

Well hold on a sec...  I read former Liberal strategist Warren Kinsella's blog posts regularly.  Let us go through the logic here.

Today Kinsella posted:

This is now. 
That was then. 
Key message: if Stephen Harper’s Reformatories do it, it’s okay. If anyone else does it, it’s Satanic.

Clear?
No, it's not clear.  Kinsella is referring to his own speech given at the Alberta Liberal Convention in Calgary where he talks about getting together with the NDP.

The "This is now" link above refers to Conservative strategists lambasting the Liberals for considering the coalition idea again, as they should. 

Now keep in mind that the FORMAL coalition between the Liberals and NDP had support from the Bloc Quebecois until June 2010.  A letter to the Governor General was signed by them in a request to to basically hand over the reigns of government to them, with Stephane Dion as Prime Minister and NDP would have cabinet posts.  While a coaliton government such as this is totally legal and constitutional, the point is that the Canadian voter was NEVER presented with this option going into the election, so many Canadians felt cheated, which is why polls for the Conservatives went up considerably after that.  Oh, and you know who else signed that letter? One Michael Ignatieff.

In the "That was then" link, Warren stretches out back in history to when Stockwell Day was leader of the Canadian Alliance. You know, before the Conservative Party existed and before Stephen Harper was even on the scene as a potential leader, let alone prime minister.  Yeah, yeah, we know Stock is cabinet now, but it's obvious here Warren's "Reformatories" moniker is slapping shit together from different piles to try and make it stick. Nice try.

(Should I mention that Warren's old boss, former Prime Minister Jean Chretien, had discussions with former NDP leader Ed Broadbent to kickstart the coalition negotiations?  Ok, there, I did.)

And one such pile is when Liberals and NDP say "How can you be against a coalition when you did it yourself!", referring to the time that when in opposition, the Conservatives, NDP, and Bloc voted non-confidence in the government, which sparked an election.

Key message:  When Liberals, NDP, and Separatists do it, they want to be an instant government without voters deciding. When Conservatives do it, they want to trigger an election and let the voters decide.

Clear?

Long live the Coalition!