tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21515728.post2918716186482471218..comments2023-10-25T10:35:33.913-05:00Comments on Hatrock's Cave: Chretien is rightHatrockhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11908255610547850292noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21515728.post-53393087441444265772012-03-31T07:49:22.395-05:002012-03-31T07:49:22.395-05:00At this point in the game, the party operatives pr...At this point in the game, the party operatives prefer to poach the membership of the others party. This strategy has one basic flaw. Those that are considered wobbly on party ideology tend to have none at all, and will only be interested in supporting a party that is either in power, or is situated in a position where they could take power (minority).<br />This is also the basis of Mucliars charm offensive.<br />His time for success is extremely limited.<br />The liberals also hear the clock ticking where if they don't really do a sea change, they will cement the perception of fringe party.gimbolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17735207654169575604noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21515728.post-37538487038890219042012-03-30T20:11:22.233-05:002012-03-30T20:11:22.233-05:00The Liberals are so far in debt, why would the N.D...The Liberals are so far in debt, why would the N.D.P. want to merge with them. They are like an old hound. Sometimes you have to put them to sleep. Let them die, and you have the same result without taking on all that debt.Dave B.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21515728.post-67049862763201910382012-03-30T19:08:51.455-05:002012-03-30T19:08:51.455-05:00As Stephane Dion sayses to-day "Dion, who was...As Stephane Dion sayses to-day "Dion, who was an observer at the NDP convention in Vancouver in June of 2011, reports that based on what he witnessed he has concluded that New Democrats and Liberals come “from different worlds.” The former Liberal leader said the NDP has a strong union tradition and a radical wing that is “almost Communist.” If Grits and socialists ever did unite as a new entity, this radical wing accommodated within Mulcair’s party would eventually move anyway to reinvent the New Democratic Party.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21515728.post-86976853126749544852012-03-30T18:59:35.221-05:002012-03-30T18:59:35.221-05:00The Young Dauphin flamed out quite some time ago (...The Young Dauphin flamed out quite some time ago (the final nail in the coffin was probably his "I'd support separatism" remark), and I can't think of anyone who could step up for the Liberals right now.<br /><br />Even a Liberal NDP alliance might be an idea who's time has passed; the rise of small "c" conservative parties in the West (Saskatchewan Party in office and the Wildrose Alliance a potential governing party in Alberta) will probably strengthen the Conservative movement across Canada as other provinces seek to emulate the strong economic growth and fix their own finances.<br /><br />A secondary consideration is they must all be quite frightened of Ontario capsizing with a projected $300 to 400 billion in debt by the end of this mandate; best get their financial houses in order and build up a surplus in case. The flow of business, capital and skilled labour from Ontario paradoxically will help the other provinces.<br /><br />Bob Rae and Thomas Muclair must be watching in helpless rage as the tide of history rises to engulf their political movements.Thucydideshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09828932214842106266noreply@blogger.com